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My Schaumburg Kia reviewtonythemongoose is a fraud and a liar. he made up all of these fictional characters and responded to himself on this forum.
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mike
My Schaumburg Kia reviewAll I can say is that if a salesman tries to steal his own co-workers customer, what do you think he will do to the customer.
Stay away from Mark Rivera
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Chris
My Schaumburg Kia reviewI met with Chris, (sales rep) and presented him with internet quotes from dealers I inquired to. The other dealers did not have the color or options I wanted. I choose a car on his lot with a sticker price of $25,100 and presented him with a breakdown of discounts and rebates used by three other dealers. He could have rejected it at that point. He didn’t, and said everything looked fine, right down to the Doc. fee that I had listed. He wanted to discuss with his manager and came back with approval. Before I left, again I asked and went over the prices, it was broken down on a spreadsheet. Again no problem. I was helping my son purchase this car and called him from the dealership to advise him that my price offer was accepted. My son stated that he saw an identical price $25,100 at their Palatine (Bob Rohrman owned) kia that had the exact color and option he wanted for the same sticker price $25,100. He asked me if Schaumburg Kia would transfer that car from Palaine,(their sister dealer 20 min. away). A common request among dealers owned by the same owner. Both cars ame sticker price. Again no problem. I asked Chris to make sure his manager approved and he said the manager did. Out the door price that I presented was $23,836..approved by Chris and his manager. I told him that I would meet my son at work and would arrange with our bank who already approved the loan. Needless to say they backed out, two hours later.
The reason my son didn’t buy the car from Palatine (Bob Rohrman Kia, was the managers inflated price he quoted. A few days earlier dealing with the same Sticker price $25,100, he started by quoting 8 1/4 tax, which red flagged me since everyone else at other dealers quoted 8%. By the time we walked out and didn’t except his deal the price was $25,394. By the time I got home he emailed me that he would drop the price $675, to $24,719. This was still a lot more than the discount structure offered by other dealers and I sent a new offer $24,250 and we would buy today. They responded that they couldn’t do that price. I decided to shop around and visited Schaumburg, (Bob Rohrman) Kia. They had a car on the lot Sticker $25,100, and as mentioned I showed them the discount structures offered from three other dealers what I wanted to pay, $23,836. They accepted and I was going to return that night with the finance check. My son faxed them to send the paperwork to our bank, (they didn’t), and he also asked them to email him confirmation of the vin # and final cost for his insurance company, they didn’t. Later Chris called me told me the price would have to be $24,600.. The other Rohrman dealer, (Palatine), now that the two dealers talked, called and did accept my price, that I presented three days earler of $24,250. They were not interested before but since the dealers were now talking about our transfer request the $24,250 was now acceptable. The whole thing is just a big scam. The manager from Schaumburg called and told me that he would be loosing $500 and that the “used car” manager had approved the deal…more BS. I’m the Father of a large family that knows a lot of people…I’ll be adamant of letting family, friends and neighbors know of the ethics of BoB Rohrman Kia dealers, Schaumburg and Palatine and any other dealers he owns. As they say with car salesmen, if their lips are moving they are lying and this is the truth at Bob Rohrman dealers.
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Matt Horn and 'Mo'
My Schaumburg Kia reviewI’m glad I found Schaumburg Kia. I was turned off by other dealerships, these were patient, honest, realistic professionals.
To think they’re in Schaumburg, IL and it’s for real.
True honest to goodness integrity.
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My Schaumburg Kia reviewLadies and gentleman,
Your going to see first hand what liars Schaumburg Kia are. I read the tonythemongoose post, so I was very honest in an e-mail to them and stated that I wouldn’t purchase a vehicle from them. Check out there response, and then check out mine.
Kia of Schaumburg – Tom Conway
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:50:30 AM
Subject:
you can believe what you want.
the judge through tony out of court because he has tried this same scam 4 times with other dealers.
when had the legal right to press charges but desided not to .
Kia of Schaumburg – Tom Conway [email protected]
:devil(:mad:
Tom,
Your a liar and how do I know this? I read all of the posts written and there were two individuals who stuck out, one is attorney1, and the other is legal brief1.
I have a relative who is an attorney in Mchenry County and he looked up this case. Remember attorney1 gave the case number, well it states as we all know your liars, and Tony as you call him gave the vehicle back due to the fact he was tired of you guys threatening to steal the vehicle. I believe legal brief1 commented on overhearing that during court. There are no legal charges that can be filed, because you guys are unethical and immoral.
Larry
Hello,
Over the last twenty-four hours I’ve received an abundance of e-mails, which pertained to a post written by a gentleman named Larry. I want to thank Larry for coming to my defense and writing his post. I was unbelievably surprised by all of the post’s that have been written well after I wrote my last post, so I would also like to thank those individuals for there post’s and support. As for Tom’s comments in his e-mail, I feel bad that a dealership has to use lies a defamation and ludicrous statements to rectify an issue they brought upon themselves.
1) Getting thrown out of court for scamming four other dealerships, I have in my possession, a court order dated August 11, 2008 which states I gave the vehicle back willingly, the Judge never forced me to do so. There legal pleading as much as it was a pack of lies and defamation, it never stated I had ever done this, nor was there any evidence to show that I tried to scam four other dealerships. I have owned thirty-two cars, if I were a scammer then who sold them to me? If anyone wants to see my court order or the legal pleading, then as I stated before, you have my e-mail address, and I will either e-mail it to you or fax it.
If Schaumburg Kia has lost allot of vehicle sales due to this issue, then as a corporation they should have stood up and done the right thing from the beginning, they have know one to blame but themselves. As I’ve stated from the beginning, all I wanted Schaumburg Kia to do was stand behind a contract they agreed too on June 04, 2008, signed, and bypassed the allotted days to legally withdraw from the retail installment agreement. This isn’t brain surgery, it ethical business.
I would ask one more thing in all fairness to cardealercheck.com, please only post comments for related posts, and don’t write a sales review for Schaumburg Kia, this will insure fairness to all parties involved.
Thank You,
Tony
I always look at car dealer reports by consumes so while reading cardealercheck.com I realized who this individual tonythemongoose was after looking at all of his post Tony is a nickname and not his real name I want to set the record straight I was a finance manager for many years and tony or tonythemongoose as you call him came into my facility and purchased a late model sls cadillac about four years ago did he scam us or try anything unusual no he came in and stated this is my price and the monthly payment I want and if we can reach an agreement then you just sold a vehicle if not then it is what it is tonythemongoose as he’s called was a straight shooter no scamming or lying we reached an agreement and he purchased the car schaumburg kia should of done the right thing from the beginning and not made up lies and stories to cover there own bad business practices schaumburg kia your losing a ton of sales because you still haven’t done the write thing and people see this and realize that this was done with malicious intent Bad publicity will destroy a business and you will continue to lose sales until you step up and do the write thing Tonythemongoose I will personally work with you anytime you want and it was a pleasure selling you the cadillac and I’ll work with you anytime or any place schaumburg kia your behavior is what gives the car industry a bad name
Cardealercheck.com and all individuals who have posted:
I had a good friend of mine tell me about this story, and being an individual in the legal profession I thought I would give my opinion. Tom I would be very careful what you ask for, there is no need for charges to be filed by this gentleman named Tony, why? Due to the fact once this issue is heard in court of law a judge will find you, Ms. Ashen, or Schaumburg guilty of whatever criminal charges are warranted and no one else. You would have to be an idiot not to think that this gentleman doesn’t have an attorney, he’s had three attorneys who posted on cardealercheck.com offer their services on a commission basis. With this type of case and individuals like yourself and Scam, an attorney will lye in wait as the defamation piles up and then file his lawsuits. Time is on Tony’s side, not Schaumburg Kia’s. I have to commend this Tony individual due to the fact; he’s been nothing but truthful and professional, and that type of character juries and judges love and his overabundance of evidence will do wonders in court.
So no one believes I know tonythemongoose or am doing this in the hopes that something will get done, I say this; Schaumburg Kia keep doing what you’re doing.
I can’t believe what I just read! Whenever I hear a story I always figure actions speak louder than words, and isn’t that the truth.
Tonythemongoose as he calls himself, very simply stated in a mature, professional manner, that Schaumburg Kia had unethical business practices.
Now here comes Tom and Scam, lying and making up stories about Tonythemongoose. Well as you can see, actions do speak louder than words. I decided to respond to this very post due to the fact that everyone at my office has been talking about it. All I hear all day long is, if you’re looking for a car don’t go to Schaumburg Kia, then it’s followed by check out the story on cardealercheck.com. Now I understand why, Tonythemongoose thank you for your honesty and your professionalism, and as for Schaumburg Kia, looking at all these posts you’re getting what you deserve, a large lose of vehicle sales and the bad reputation you deserve.:mad:
Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:03:30 AM
To:[email protected]
tom
i have two questions for you nad i would like them answered. i don’t know tonythemongoose other than through my e-mail to him. He was kind enough tio send me his court order and his original spot delivery agreement and one marked exhibit b and a portion of the legal pleading.1/ if tonythemongoose was a scammer and tried to rippoff four other dealerships then why did your attorney and the judge give tonythemongoose seven days to return the vehicle. if he was thrown out of court and was looked at as a scammer then wouldnt your attorney and the judge have demanded the 2007 ford mustang convertible that day. this is a legal court order from mchenry county signed by the judge and the clerk of the circut court.2/ why was exhibit b forged with tonythemongooses legal name if you guys were telling the truth. i have a friend of mine who works in the finance department at an elgin il dealership and he said a spot delivery agreement only has an original and a copy. if tonythemongoose has the original then where did your original come from. im going to post this e-mail on cardealercheck.com and when you respond to me through my e-mail adress i will post that also.if your not able to respond then i would accept you managers or your owners response to these two questions..
thank you,
Raymond Johnson
this morning i sent an e-mail to tom at schaumburg kia and if you look at my e-mail my questions were very straight forward. i realize only four hours have past but it only took tonythemongoose an hour to respond and twenty minutes to fax me over all of his information. tom you can’t argue truthful written evidence. to everyone who has posted we can now see who is the honest one is and who are the liars. i believe as nicky said your bad reputation and the large amount of vehicle loses will continue to mount. as civilattorney1 said time is on tonythemongooses side. with this bad econmy how much time do you have. i guess doing the right thing looks good right abot now! i will no longer post but i believe we now realize what an injustice has occured.
Biggranpa1
in all honesty four hours isn’t alott of time to respond but if you would have given schaumburg kia four months it wouldn’t have mattered. court orders and forgeries are just that. I’m very surprised at the amount of people who know about this situation and still continually bring it up day after day. Tonythemongooses real name sounded familiar so I looked up are records and about a year ago tonythemongoose came into our dealership in the northwest suburbs to look at a 2008 Ford Mustang Convertible. our dealerships salesmen take notes on our customer for marketing purposes. In the notes our salesman stated tonythemongoose was professional direct and honest. He further stated that he would work with tonythemongoose again whenever tonythemongoose revisited our dealership. There was no mention of any type of scamming as being said about tonythemongoose by Schaumburg kia. I have one question did the ownership or management at Schaumburg kia flunk math. You’re losing a ton of business over what I read in a post that the vehicles selling price was under thirteen thousand dollars. Best-case scenario if this continues with civil lawsuits and lose vehicle sales you’ll lose millions. Worst-case scenario you’ll continue on this path and due absolutely nothing lose millions and then go out of business. see what I mean by flunking math. I agree with financeguru1 you guys give hard working men and women at dealerships a bad name.
as i promised here is the e-mail response from scaumburg kia
Kia of Schaumburg – Tom Conway
To: Raymond Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:25:49 AM
Subject: Re: Vehicle
you have way to much time on your hands.
the judge made him return the car meaning he was wrong
if he was right he would still have the car
i did not make the legal system but i do follow it
legally he had to return the car
im going to answer these questions one by one
1/ if the judge forced him to give back the car and he was wrong then why was he given seven days to return the mustng convertible.I saw the court order through a fax. legalbrief1 stated tonythemongoose attorney wasn’t able to be there so he said i’m tired of them continually threathening to steal my vehicle so they can have it. If i’ read the post corectly their is a police report in which two employees from schaumburg kia tried to do just that. the police said get lost and your not touching tonythemongooses car.
2/ how can you say you or schaumburg kia or your attorney followed the law when you entered a forged document into a court of law. i saw tonythemongooses original spot delivery agreement and your exhibit b through a fax. as i stated before i’m fully aware that a spot delivery agreement only has two pages and if tonythemongoose has the original then where did your originl come from.yes i do have to much time on my hands im retired. i don’t like playing these kinds of dumb games but all i wanted to hear was Raymond we made a mistake and were going to rectify it. all i’m hearing are more and more lies. i don’t know tonythemongoose but this type of injustice can’t be tolerated. tom before you continue to lie try and read the post’s like eveyone else does. how do you think i got the information. as for tonythemongoose what he said he backed up. as for yourself and schaumburg kia you only defense is lies. I want to thank everyone and say goodbye.
Grandpa1,
Thank you for standing up for me, and I would like to thank finananceguru1, johnnybravo1, and Nicky1, and everybody for posting on my behalf. I have received an unbelievable amount of positive and supportive e-mails over the last couple of days, so I felt I wanted to set the record straight once and for all. Everything I’m about to say I have written or legal documentation to offer as evidence. I don’t understand why Tom feels it necessary to defame my character, but that’s Tom and Schaumburg Kia’s prerogatives.
August 11, 2008 I went into court and due to the fact my attorney was on vacation, and the judge was only willing to give us a continuance until September 02, 2008, and since I knew my attorney would be on vacation well past that time, I then stated to the judge I’m tired of them threatening to steal this vehicle and my attorney won’t be back in time, so I’m going to willingly give the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible back. The judge then stated Ok Tonythemongoose I’ll give you seven days August 18, 2008, to look for a vehicle and get things in order. Can I prove? Yes my court order. I did state to the honorable judge, that my attorney would do what he felt was necessary after the fact. She then stated that is your prerogative Tonythemongoose. I was never charged any court fees, or any attorney fees, or damages. Can I prove this? Yes, my courts order.
Exhibit B – On July 30,2008 I received a summons, case number being#08LM629 which stated, (look at attorney1’s post he explained exactly what the summons stated.) When I looked at exhibit B I thought if I have the original spot delivery agreement, then what is this exhibit B? From that day forward I sent Ms. Debra Ashen a minimal of 25 faxes that stated your exhibit B is a forgery. I even went as far as to highlight Brian’s initials. Can I prove this? Yes, I have all twenty five faxes and confirmation sheets, proving Ms. Ashen was well aware of this forgery prior to our court date of August 11, 2008 and her office had received all of my faxes.
All I wanted was Schaumburg Kia to stand behind a contract they signed, agreed too, and bypassed the legal amount of time that they were given to legally back out of the contract. Can I prove this? Yes, my retail installment agreement, my spot delivery agreement, the vehicle purchase order, state of Illinois plate document, odometer disclosure statement, interest rate, monthly payment, number of months, final payout, terms and conditions of contract all signed by a representative for Schaumburg Kia, (Brian), and myself. If anyone were to purchase a car and then fifteen days later just drop it off and say see you, do you think you wouldn’t be held accountable to that contract? If you answered yes, then you’re correct. If individuals want to continue to post and not purchase a vehicle from Schaumburg Kia, or use Ms. Ashen and her associates for legal services, then that’s your legal right and your decision. Please understand my only goal here was to insure that the consumer understood and were well aware of what Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Debra Ashen did to me. Any evidence I stated I have, I will be more then happy to send via e-mail or via fax to anyone who is interested.
Thank You,
Tonythemongoose
i promise not to post anymore but thank you tonythemongoose for being proffessional enough to tell the truth without personally atacking anyone. as been said in alot of postings you are a class act. i sorry for getting so angry but i though this was a total lack of ethics and morels. thank you cardealercheck.com for letting consumers bring these people to lite. the one thing you can’t dispute is writen evidence. this is such a shame all that had to be done was the rite thing. schaumburg kia your losing sales and will continue to due to your own actions. I have been alive a long time and i’ve never seen such a lack of comon sense.
thank you cardealercheck.com and tonythemongoose. on friday i was thinking of purchasing a kia and the closest dealership to my house is schaumburg kia. so i went and looked at schaumburg kia reviews and was i surprised. what puzzled me the most was schaumburg kia’s lack of proffesionalism not to mention threre criminals! i wasn’t able to read all the posts because some are hidden but the ones i read summed up the situation. here is what truly boggles my mind schaumburg kia has probably lost at least fifty sales over one car. so let me gat this straight rather than do the right thing and settle this with tonythemongoose they would rather continue to lose sales. this is mind blowing and no ofense really stupid.
WELL SCHAUMBURG KIA YOU GUYS LOST ANOTHER SALE AND IM SURE WERE NOT DONE COUNTING.
This post is directed to Ms. Ashen.
Dear Ms. Ashen,
I wanted to take an opportunity to let you know how disappointed I am in your behavior, regarding an issue between Schaumburg Kia and a tonythemongoose. As a businessman who has used attorneys for most of my adult life, I realize ethics is not always apparent in attorneys, but maintaining the law always has. I’ve read most of the posts on cardealercheck.com, and it’s one thing to forge an individual’s signature, but it’s another to lie and make up stories about him. I’ve dealt with alott of attorneys who work in the same courtroom with you on a daily basis, and they all said the same thing, for an attorney to knowingly and willingly go into court with a document that is forged, violates the very oath he or she has taken.
I contacted tonythemongoose to verify the information he stated was legitimate, and as I expected it was. I felt compelled to post my opinion on cardealercheck.com, just let you know that this situation should have been rectified in a fair and contractual manner, not in the illegal and character assassination type of manner that it was handled in. tonythemongoose legally purchased that vehicle, so then Schaumburg Kia should have been held accountable to their contractual obligation. Ms. Ashen if we allow individuals to lie and commit criminal’s acts just to back out of contractual obligations, and then our attorneys allow this type of behavior to continue, then why have legal contractual agreements, and then why have attorneys? I would ask you to ponder this very question.
Thank You,
Dawk1
Dawk1 you hit the baby dead on. Yesterday I read your post to my class and as a pre-law student our professor is using this issue with Ms. Ashen as a class attorney ethics project. I was surprised that your post was already gone, and I was also surprised that Schaumburg Kia was taken off the worst car dealer list. As a class we were trying to figure out what made this such a hot issue, so we talked about it all during class and here is what we came up with. This has three components, one being a shady and unethical dealership, the second part is an attorney violating the very oath she had taken, and third is the complete failure of our legal system. Our professor, who early in his career worked with the Illinois State Supreme, stated an attorney could get disbarred for this type of behavior.
As a pre-law student I want to thank tonythemongoose for stating it straight. He never went after anyone personally; he just stated the facts and backed it up with straight up evidence. Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen, you’re the very reason we have court systems and the A.R.D.C.
Dear all thank you for all of the input and it made it very easy to say this! schaumburg Kia your dealership just lost another sale….
Holy batboy! Look I personally think that KIA’s are Korean made garbage, but holy batboy this situation is PATHETIC!! I HEARD ABOUT THIS ISSUE FROM ABOUT I don’t know a couple dozen people. I have a relative who is a judge and he read this post and stated that he was ashamed at our legal system for allowing this to happen. The killer part of this whole situation is this, even if Ms. Ashen tried to shut up tonythemongoose, and as were all aware judges were prior attorneys so they all stick together, an Illinois judge can only stop tonythemongoose and no one else. So Ms. Ashen and Schaumburg Kia your actions regarding this case will continue to be posted as long as the consumer sees fit. First amendment rights; (Freedom of Speech.) So you see it will keep going and going…..and going….. Until the consumer believes it’s settled to there satisfaction. Hey tonythemongoose, Senator Burris is a liar and cheat, how about running for Senator, we need someone who will stand up and kick butt and take names.:devil(:p:mad::D
Holybatboy1 I read your post and you made some very good points. I can’t see a judge or an attorney going as far as to violating tonythemongooses fist amendment rights, but with that being said, I wouldn’t trust a judge or an attorney as far as I can throw them. Lets say there were to try and violate tonythemongooses first amendment rights, you could be rest assured that the postings would only get worse and grow at a larger abundance in rate. An Illinois Judges power ends with tonythemongoose, no one else. Under the first amendment it states freedom of speech, people have a right to give his or her opinions regarding any and all issues or writing a post or media related stories that pertain to an injustice. I looked on Pissed Consumer.com, and it shows that tonythemongoose gave Ms. Ashen and the KIA Corporation the ability to respond to his posting, yet they did nothing and that was back in September or October of 2008. I have a relative who is a federal attorney and she went, as far as to say, if tonythemongooses constitutional rights were violated, then this matter could become a federal case.
Evidence is just that, you can’t discard what’s right in front of you, even if the judge turns a blind eye to it. What I can’t understand is this, Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen are clearly at fault here, then why not just settle this issue with tonythemongoose and just move on. Grandpa1 said it right, where is the common sense here? Tonythemongoose we were wrong, what will it take to rectify the issue, so we can all move on and we’ll never deal with you again and you’ll never deal with us again…simple… Whether it’s stupidity or arrogance on their part of Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen, they may have won the battle by lies and deception, but there getting destroyed in the war. You can’t rebuild your reputation once it’s been destroyed. The most ironic part about this issue is this; they destroyed their reputation all by themselves.
I’m not sure why this is such a hot topic but they sent a link to cardealercheck.com through our inner office mail at work. I went to cardealercheck.com and read all of the posts and to be honest I can now understand why people are so angry. Its one thing to be an unethical dealership but to lye cheat and then try to destroy a man’s character with more lies is intolerable. Everyone is right where the common sense here. Look let’s say at worst they settled this issue with tonythemongoose and it costs Schaumburg Kia twenty thousand dollars for a vehicle and twenty thousand dollars for damages. Isn’t it better then the enormous amounts of sales they’ve lost and are going to lose in the future? Whose fault is this, Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen? If we can figure this out then why can’t they. They’ve tried making up stories about tonythemongoose, they tried using Ford Motor Credit against him, if you read his post if a finance company isn’t smart enough to sending you a billing statement and address to pay your payment, then they don’t deserve to get paid. I read in tonythemongoose post and he stated he’s owned thirty two cars, and he has had only one problem with one dealership and one lien holder. That’s amazing!
I second the motion, Tonythemongoose for Senator……………..:eek::devil(:D
This is unbelievable… I can’t believe the extraordinary amount of posting that have been done on my behalf. I want to start out by saying thank you again to everyone who has stood behind me and who have sent me literally thousands of supportive e-mails, and I would also like to thank the legal community, who has also sent me thousands of supportive e-mails and stated keep getting the word out. To be honest I figured the legal community would send me anything less then favorable e-mails, but whether it was from Cook County, Kane County, Dupage County, Mchenry County or other counties and or other states for that matter, they were all supportive and kind. These e-mails came from lawyers, judges, and excetra.
I have to honest here; my intention from the beginning was only to get the word out and insure this never happened to anyone else. I do agree with many of the posts, where’s the common sense here? The issue of me giving Ms. Ashen a representative of Schaumburg Kia and the KIA Corporation, the ability to respond to my postings was correct. Can I prove this? Yes I have a faxed letter and fax confirmation sheet sent to Ms. Ashen’s office, and I also have an e-mail sent to Ms. Marjorie Veards from the KIA Corporation, with a KIA case control number. Why did I invite Ms. Ashen and the KIA Corporation to tell their side of the story? To insure that everyone was given a fair and legitimate opportunity to defend themselves. Why? I wanted the consumer to read and form an opinion fairly and honestly. Did anyone ever respond from the KIA Corporation or Ms. Debra Ashen? No. I truly cannot figure out why this issue has caused such an outpouring of support for me, or such a outrage with the consumer. I will agree with one thing, why would a corporation and or dealership lose such a large amount of sales past, present, and future, over one vehicle is nothing less than mind-boggling. What started out as a simple story has blossomed into something that I no longer have any control over? I was recently told that the boycott has now reached over four million people, these individuals started this boycott on my behalf and without my involvement……Unreal…… and they have my debt of gratitude.
Thank you,
Tonythemongoose
tonythemongoose a class act as usual! as consumers be very warned schaumburg kia and ms ashen we will continue this until your all out of business or you guys do the right thing. four million do i here 8 million indivdual boycotts
tonythemongoose a class act as usual! as consumers be very warned schaumburg kia and ms ashen we will continue this until your all out of business or you guys do the right thing. four million do i here 8 million indivdual boycotts
Being the owner of a car dealership I normally hate these types of postings UNTIL…..I got in contact with tonythemongoose and seen first hand his evidence. Look I’m writing incognito because anyone who has purchased a vehicle realizes that a dealership isn’t just going to say whatever you want at whatever price its your car. Were all out for profit and do we at times do things that are less the admirable yes.. To forge a mans signature and then enter it into a court of law and then be dumb enough to try an obtain him a loan under an alias is the lowest form of automotive business that I’ve ever seen in the thirty years that I’ve been in the automotive industry. That is right these guys tried to loan tonythemongoose under a name that legally wasn’t his and I saw the lien holders letters firsthand to prove it. can you get someone a loan using an alias I don’t think so. these issues is so simple contact tonythemongoose and say what needs to be done here to insure you’re happy and let’s settle and part ways and lets all move on. I going to guess just by postings alone Schaumburg KIA have lost fifty cars sales due to cardealercheck.com and now take the number of people who were interested but never posted on cardealercheck.com. Let’s take a minimum number and say twenty. Forty plus twenty equals sixty. now we have over four million boycott e-mails and to be honest not everyone liked or was interested in a kia but let’s say two hundred people were and they have now changed there minds. Two hundred plus sixty equals two hundred and sixty lost car sales and this number is at the very minimal amount of lost car sales. Can we even count that high regarding the kia corporation and schaumburg kia lost profits. Ms. Ashen and schaumburg kia except responsibility for your actions and become adults and quit destroying a less than perfect industries known as the automotive and legal profession. Tonythemongoose even as the owner of a dealership you have my full support and I will insure my salesmen are aware of this to tell potential clients of the kia corporation or schaumburg kia. Don’t Buy!
this is wild there is even an owner of a dealership becoming involved. auto dealer1 it takes alott of guts to dish on one of your own. look everyone realizes these guys aren’t going to do anything and there nothing more then criminals who stand behind a criminal attorney. tonythemongoose is standing up for what is right and schaumburg kia and ms. ashen are getting exactly what they deserve a bad rep and lost revenue. if they had any ethics or morals then they would have done the right thing from the begining. biggrandopa1 is write keep the boycotts going and eventually with this economy schaumburg kia and the kia corporation will go under like gm and chrysler and ms. ashens reputation will get to the point were other attorneys and judges will question her every move. i looked at all of the post and to lose millions of millions of dollars over a thirteen thousand dollar car is not only rediculous but only proves how dumb these individuals are.tonythemongoose what is the mark of great character standing up for what is right.
This issue keeps getting bigger by the day. As we’re all aware Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen aren’t willing to do the right thing so I contacted a very good friend of mine who works in the Illinois State Supreme Court office last week and he had a very different outlook regarding ms. ashen and her clients Schaumburg Kia legal handling of this case. Tonythemongoose I hope this helps.
D?mn….. I can’t believe this. there has to be at least 100 or more postings and at least 50,60,or 70 people who won’t buy a car from schaumburg Kia.Wanger5 good deal man if ms. ashen doesn’t want to do the right thing then let the illinois state supreme court force her to.I’m not an attorney but I would guess this can’t be good thing for ms. ashen. as for schaumburg kia you guys are shady to say the least and if you aren’t already out of business then you should be out of business soon. tonythemongoose right on!!!
I’ve been watching this situation for some time now, and to be honest I never liked these types of vicious bloging, until I read all of these posts which included e-mails from Tom (Schaumburg Kia). I work just east on Golf Rd in Schaumburg Illinois, so I pass Schaumburg Kia everyday and I haven’t seen a vehicle in Schaumburg Kia’s lot for a week or so now so in my opinion Schaumburg Kia is out of business.
I saw that Schaumburg Jeep moved just west of there old building, but nowhere did I see the Schaumburg Kia dealership.
I believe that if Schaumburg Kia went bankrupt then more than likely their unethical business practices finally caught up with them in this brutal economy. What truly blew me away was the outpouring of support for tonythemongoose. As I contemplated this issue I finally realized why? Schaumburg Kia or the KIA Corporation never did anything to rectify this matter. If Schaumburg Kia sold twenty cars a month, then that would accumulate to two hundred and forty cars a year that the KIA Corporation lost in possible sales. I will guarantee you one thing, this boycott will continue and the KIA Corporation will continue to lose more and more profitability over one car. Here is a very simple remedy, tonythemongoose we were wrong so how can we come to a fair compromise, how tough is that. Well I guess these postings will now come to an end, , but will the boycott of Kia vehicles?:rolleyes::confused:
jeffery1 i think you maybe correct i was drivinh through schaumburg and i didn’t see one car in schaumburg kias lot. well i can only say one thing good ridence and i hope this sends a message to all criminal dealerships. we the people have spoken loud and clear. was this tonythemongooses fault no it was the criminal behavior that finally caught up with schaumburg kia. as american corporations in order to survive you must do the right thing by the consumer. tonythemongoose thank you nd good luck
Ladies and Gentleman,
I’ve been contacted via e-mail an enormous amount of time pertaining to Schaumburg kia possibly being out of business do I know if this is true on not? No. Let me start by saying this if Schaumburg Kia is out of business, then I feel bad for anyone who is employed and loses there jobs. I was truly amazed at the outpouring of support for me then, and the continued support me now. I would please ask one thing, I realize their is a boycott going around regarding the Kia Corporation and Kia automobiles. I realize that people are very upset regarding this issue, but I would please ask that you only hold the parties responsible who are involved in this issue.
Cardealercheck.com opened up all of the postings, and I was able to read all of them,and a couple of dealerships were mentioned in these posts. The individuals at these dealerships had no part in this matter other than carrying the Kia name. Please insure that the individuals who were directly related to this are the only individual or corporations held responsible for this and no one else. There are alott of great dealerships that I’ve dealt with over the years, and it wouldn’t be fair to lump them all together. If the kia Corporation continues to handle situations as they’ve done with me personally, then they will continue to receive negative feedback, but that will be there choice. As for the boycott since I wasn’t involved ,if you choose to continue as I’ve been told,then that would be your decision.
Thank you,
tonythemongoose
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My Schaumburg Kia reviewI wasn’t able to post my opinion on tonythemongooses post,due to fact fact I kept getting an error page. So here is my opinion of this mess. Here is a prime example of why in the world are we bailing out a bunch of liars and cheats? As a retired finance manager in the auto industry I’ve seen first hand how consumers are lied too and cheated. I was involved in a similar situation involving a dealership as unethical and immoral as the individuals noted above and the dealership was sued about nine months after the fact and the consumer was awarded five hundred thousand dollars in damages for a twelve thousand dollar car. After that incident I left the auto industry and retired and I haven’t looked back. What happened to the dealership? Six months later they went out of business. Every post I’ve read is correct and Schaumburg Kia, the KIA Corporation not only lost tonythemongoose but his family and friends not to mention a ton of new sales due to the posts and boycott. How dumb are you guys! Tonythemongoose paid are larger sum then the twelve thousand some odd dollars the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible is being sold for now, so Schaumburg Kia and the Kia Corporation you not only lost a ton of sales, but you’ve lost a ton on the car. Who are the dumb ones here? All you have to do is look in the mirror Schaumburg Kia and the KIA Corporation to see your reflection.
Thank you,
Gianni
Everyone,
Thanks for the great input i was thinking about buying a kia before i read tonythemongooses story. Schaumburg kia and the Kia Corporation you guys are criminals and Ms. Ashen you and your associate should no longer be allowed to practice law anywhere in the U.S. I could understand if tonythemongoose did something illegal then i could see everyone involved playing hardball but you guys forged a document and then entered it into a court proceeding. Dealing with federal laws i would have to say in my opinion that constitutes perjury. You guys are either very arrogent or unbelievabley stupid.(Pick One) I will insure I tell everyone i know not to buy a kia from any kia dealer in Illinios. I realize that statement is very harsh but what did the kia Corporation due regarding this matter? Not a thing. Keep the boycott going and let’s put these criminlas out of business.Go get ’em tonythemongoose
Thank you,
Randall
Thank you everyone
are boycott of Schaumburg Kia, the Kia Corporation and all their subsidiaries which would also include WillowBrook Ford/ Kia has reached over one million people and counting, not to mention the people we’ve reached through cardealercheck.com. As consumers we’ll either prevail or put these criminals out of business trying. Taxguy i hope you don’t work for the IRS or Schaumburg Kia and there cohorts maybe getting audited this year. Thank you carddealercheck.com and tonythemongoose keep kicking ? You know what.
Ralphieboy
retired2004,
your prospective was right on and as a former finance manager were taught to lie cheat and literally steal from consumers. why didn’t the kia corporation do anything about this tonythemongooses evidence is in plain site. prospective buyers of kia’s from schaumburg kia and the kia corporation or any kia dealers for that matter stay away and purchase american. your going to get taken advantage of anyway but why not purchase american. at least your giving back to our country. over one million boycotted e-mails…….taht’s allott of lost car sales for kia. can I join the boycott
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Tonythemongoose,
I’m not sure if you really care anymore, but about two weeks ago I went to WillowBrook Ford /Kia and looked at the 2007 red Mustang Convertible that was taken from you on a prejudicial basis. I only went to insure your story had merit, ( which it does) while looking at the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible I realized it had a stain on the front driverside seat and a bubble in driverside front interior. Out of knowhere the vehicle vanishes from Willow Brook Ford/Kia, so yesterday I was looking through the auto section in Yahoo and I saw a vehicle with a different vin number yet the identical stain and the indentical bubble on the front seat not to mention the same exterior and interior color and mileage. Coincidence? I’m wondering if WillowBrook Ford/ Kia and this other dealership are playing games and hiding the car by using a false vin number on their webpage? I thought you and your attorney may be interested in this information so you can investigate it further. Thanks for standing up for the little guy.
Dear all
Thank you tonythemongoose for sharing your information with me i was thinking about purchasing a Kia Sorrento so I stopped in at Schaumburg Kia. I never said much to there sales people other than hello and I’m just looking. After I left their dealership i thought I might look up any negatives review so I went to cardealercheck.com. I was very honest with Schaumburg Kia when I told them via e-mail that I was interested in purchasing a vehicle from them until I read tonythemongooses post. What really bothered me was there lack of ethics regarding this situation. Mistakes happen all the time but to lie and then enter false evidence in a court of law is just down right despicable.
Thanks everyone,
Tom
Dear tonythemongoose,
thank you for insuring I didn’t make a huge mistake. I was going to look at buying a kia at schumburg kia until I read your post. after reading all of these posts it look like schaumburg kia has lost alott of sales from people reading your story. over one car, no wonder why the dealerships and manufacturers are going out of business? If you want to be criminals, then you should be put out of business like criminals.
Thank you so much, can I join the boycott?
Dear all thank you for not letting me make the biggest mistake of my life I was thinking of purchasing a vehicle from schaumburg kia until i read tonythemongooses post. i normally use edmunds.com but after seeing that they gave these crooks a three rating even though a consumer post said schaumburg Kia were crooks really ticked me off. I’m sure glad i looked at cardealercheck.com. what is the deal with mikeyp and megan? it’s bad enough to be crooks but then to have people write lies holy macro. edmunds.com only works for the dealership not the consumer so i would recommend that cardealercheck.com is the only way to go. schaumburg kia you lost another sale and after reading the tons of positive responses for tonythemongoose you guys lost a ton of sales. over only one car.holy macro!
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My Schaumburg Kia reviewI tried to post a reply to tonythemongooses responses but I kept getting an error page so I wanted to give an opinion on this matter.
Criminaldef50
Your post was right on I had a similar situation with a car dealership and I waited seven months until I filed my lawsuit due to the fact I was given that advice to wait by my attorney. In the end I was awarded fifteen times the value of the vehicle and monetary losses, which included personal damages and there was never any forgery involved in my case. Look at all of the positive opinions for tonythemongoose and look at all of negative opinions for everyone else involved in this case. What do you think a jury’s opinion will be? I know first hand most of the immediate public dislike and mistrust car manufacturers and dealerships for this very reason. Where’s the dealership now that was involved in my case? There now out of business. I heard about this story and posts on cardealercheck.com by an unbelievable amount of people so I figured I would give my opinion. That twelve thousand dollar Ford Mustang Convertible Schaumburg Kia, the KIA Corporation, and Willow brook Ford/Kia is going to ae09look like a small lunch bill when the damages are awarded to tonythemongoose and all of the vehicle sales these posts will have cost you. You brought this bad publicity all on yourselves. When you do the right thing you always win but when you go out of your way to cheat people and forge consumer’s names then you lose. Tonythemongoose you have my support and your doing the right thing getting the word out, this will insure know one ever has Schaumburg Kia, the kia corporation or anyone else involved in this case do this to them.
What are you kidding me!
Schaumburg Kia & the KIA Corporation you guys can consider that you just lost two more car sales.
I was told about this issue by many individuals in my profession, so after reading all of the posts, I would like to give a breakdown of my opinion regarding this matter.
This case should have never seen the inside of a courtroom.
Exhibit b should have never been entered in as evidence.
Wonin2007 was exactly right; Schaumburg Kia and everyone involved in this will pay dearly for damages. I’ve tried multiple dealership cases in Chicago IL and do you know how many dealerships attorneys won against me? None, a jury or the judge always sided for the consumer not the dealership. What always baffled me was this, the dealership and there attorneys always played hard ball, but then in the end whined about how much money they had to pay out in damages.
diguted1 I had a similar situation happen to me at a gmc dealership and I drove the vehicle for over six months before they were able to finance my truck I signed a document I can’t remember what it was called but it gave the dealership a limited amount of days to loan me or they would be stuck with the contract we signed when they didn’t loan me in time they just said keep driving the truck and we’ll work it out they lost over eight thousand five hundred dollars on the truck but my mom dad and friends brought brand new trucks from that dealership they made three times the amount of money that they lost on my truck
schaumburg kia there is no excuse for your behavior and forging tonythemongoose’s signature Keep kicking butt tonythemongoose
This posted story tells a very serious miscarriage of justice. Tonythemongoose I’m sure you have an attorney due to the fact three attorneys have offered their services through cardealercheck.com alone. I also realize all attorneys have there own agenda and timetable for pending lawsuits. As for Ms. Ashen and her associate have you contacted the A.R.D.C. to file a complaint? I have a very good friend who works at the A.R.D.C., so I’ll see if I can set up an interview between you and my very good friend at the A.R.D.C. I’ll let you know the outcome and possible interview date through your e-mail address. Schaumburg KIA I believe these posts speak volumes regarding your business ethics and morality.
Lost another sale today schaumburg kia i was looking to buy my wife a kia sedona but i wouldn’t buy a kia if i was desperate and needed a car. can I join the boycott. Thanks tonythemongoose and everyone else not to forget cardearlercheck.com. :mad::mad::mad::mad::confused::confused::confused:
here is my e-mail [email protected]
Everyone,
I have received an overabundance of e-mails, which mentioned all of the new posts that have been written even after I stated I was no longer going to post on cardealercheck.com. I felt that it would be only fitting to post one last time just to say thank you to everyone who has posted or sent me e-mails of support.
I was overwhelmed by the amount of e-mails that I’ve received from attorneys and judges in the Chicago land and metropolitan area, my first thought was I’m going to get an earful, yet all I received were e-mails that stated your doing the right thing and keep getting the word out. To everyone who has e-mailed me in the legal profession, I want to send out a debt of gratitude for your kind words. I also want to reiterate one final thing, my posting and getting the word out is in no way meant to put anyone out of business, yet it is to insure that the immediate public is aware of Schaumburg Kia, The Kia Corporation and their attorney Ms. Debra Ashens tactics.
I’m not sure what struck such a chord in peoples opinions, but in a very small way this may very well change the behavior of the individuals who are involved this situation. As I stated from the beginning all I wanted was for Schaumburg Kia and everyone else involved in this situation to stand behind a signed contractual agreement, as they would have expected from any consumers whom purchased a vehicle from them. If this situation never happens to anyone again, then the boycott and the posts would have insured that very outcome.
Thank you,
Tonythemongoose
Everyone,
I have recieved an overabundance of e-mails, that mentioned all of the new posts that have been written even after I stated I was no longer going to post on cardealercheck.com. I felt that it would be only fitting to post one last time just to say thank you to everyone who has posted or sent me e-mails of support.
I was overwhelmed by the amount of e-mails that I’ve recieved from attorneys and judges in the Chicago land and metropolitan area, my first thought was I’m going to get an earful, yet all I recieved were e-mails that stated your doing the right thing and keep getting the word out. To everyone who has e-mailed me in the legal proffession, I want to send out a debt of gratitude for your kind words.I also want to reiterate one final thing, my posting and getting the word out is in no way meant to put anyone out of business, yet it is to insure that the immeddiate public is aware of Schaumburg Kia, The Kia Corporation and their attorney Ms. Debra Ashens tactics.
I’m not sure what struck such a chord in peoples opinions, but in a very small way this may very well change the behavior of the individuals who are involved this situation. As I stated from the begining All I wanted was for Schaumburg Kia and everyone else involved in this situation to stand behind a signed contractual agreement, as they would have expected from any consmer whom purchased a vehicle from them. If this situation never happens to anyone again, then the boycott and the posts would have insured that very outcome. In essence we’ve won.
Thank you,
Tonythemongoose
Everyone,
I have recieved an overabundance of e-mails, that mentioned all of the new posts that have been written even after I stated I was no longer going to post on cardealercheck.com. I felt that it would be only fitting to post one last time just to say thank you to everyone who has posted or sent me e-mails of support.
I was overwhelmed by the amount of e-mails that I’ve recieved from attorneys and judges in the Chicago land and metropolitan area, my first thought was I’m going to get an earful, yet all I recieved were e-mails that stated your doing the right thing and keep getting the word out. To everyone who has e-mailed me in the legal proffession, I want to send out a debt of gratitude for your kind words.I also want to reiterate one final thing, my posting and getting the word out is in no way meant to put anyone out of business, yet it is to insure that the immeddiate public is aware of Schaumburg Kia, The Kia Corporation and their attorney Ms. Debra Ashens tactics.
I’m not sure what struck such a chord in peoples opinions, but in a very small way this may very well change the behavior of the individuals who are involved this situation. As I stated from the begining All I wanted was for Schaumburg Kia and everyone else involved in this situation to stand behind a signed contractual agreement, as they would have expected from any consmer whom purchased a vehicle from them. If this situation never happens to anyone again, then the boycott and the posts would have insured that very outcome. In essence we’ve won.
Thank you,
Tonythemongoose
A Class act tonythemongoose.
i read every post on this site and i woudnt purchase a kia from schaumburg kia or anyother kia dealer tonythemongoose i hope you sue these criminals for everything they own and I’m sure you will and win big I could not believe what i was reading how can we live in the u.s. and this type of garbage happen you guys cheat us and then lie to us and then when you guys lose money and as tax payers we have to bail you criminals out go out of business and learn some morals tonythemongoose we need more people like you who stand up with no fear and hit them right were they hurt in their pocketbook tonythemongoose i hope you take them for every dime they have as consumers we all no you will
can i join the boycott [email protected]
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My Schaumburg Kia reviewI tried to post a comment on tonythemongooses post but it wouldn’t let me so I just wanted to let everyone as of today we have reached over five hundred thousand people in our boycott of Schaumburg Kia the kia corporation and any other subsidiaries of Schaumburg Kia which would also include a delership known as WillowBrook Ford/ Kia.
Tonythemongoose you truly are a class act!!!!!!!
Thank you,
Ronda
When I first read all of these posts I thought he we go another troublemaker. Scam let me tell you a little bit about lawsuits, the longer you wait to file them the larger amount of damages that occur which in turn means a much higher payout for damges in the end. You’re very right Scam any attorney would be out of his mind not to take a slam-dunk case like this on a commission basis. (Thanks for letting us know.) I researched the case involving Mr. Sottile and Schaumburg Kia, not to mention Ms. Ashen and Attorney1 hit a homer with his post. You would have to be a brainless idiot to believe a word of that pleading. Here’s something to think about, Mr. Sottile stopped posting a couple of days ago and yet the posts still keep coming. What should this tell you? That this is very detrimental to all the parties involved. The 2007 Red Ford Mustang Convertible is a very nice car, but it’s already down to $12,239.00 dollars and dropping. You guys are not only losing on the vehicles price, but you’re also losing your shorts on car sales. I’m going to take a guess; I’ll bet Schaumburg Kia and the KIA Corporation not to mention any and all subsidiaries have probably already lost millions of dollars over a twelve thousand dollar car. I say keep the posts coming and keep the boycott rolling.
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My Schaumburg Kia reviewI wanted to let everyone know about an experience I had at Schaumburg Kia the situation took place in May of 2008. I looked at a vehicle on there website and called on it. I was told the price which was quoted on their website. I then went into their dealership and what do you know the vehicles price when up two thousand dollars. When I asked what happened they stated we forgot to change the price on our website. I then said but you quoted me the website price over the phone. My Salesman’s name was mike and they kept calling him mikey. Look I won’t state whether mikey p is a fraud or not but what a coincidence isn’t it. I wasn’t going to say anything but I thought if tonythemongoose can stand up and let the truth be heard then why I shouldn’t. These guys are unethical, liars, and cheats. Tonythemongoose thank you for letting people know that injustices can and need to be heard.I believe your story, so let Schaumburg Kia keep lying.
I’ve read some really nasty things before, but this has to take the cake. Let’s call tonythemongoose by his name, Mr. Sottile. I was in court on August 11,2008 defending a client when I had the ability to overhear this case. First of all, the judge only recommended that Mr. Sottile give back the vehicle; she also stated that Mr. Sottile could go to trial and fight for the vehicle if he wanted too. Mr. Sottile’s attorney was on vacation so Mr. Sottile stated I’m tired of them continually threatening to steal the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible so your honor, I’ll give back the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible back and let my attorney do what needs to be legally done down the road.
Scam you forgot about the part were two Schaumburg Kia employees came to Mr. Sottile’s home and tried to extort the Ford Mustang from his home by calling him and his mom who was at the home some very disgusting names for witnesses to hear. The police were called and what was that scam, they wouldn’t allow Schaumburg Kia to take the vehicle.’There is a police report for evidence’
Let’s talk about exhibit b, why didn’t the judge rule on it? Ms. Ashen’s associated stated under oath that yes Mr. Sottile was given a five day contingency, yet exhibit b states a non day contingency. I’m disgusted, why? Ms. Ashen and her associate knew that exhibit b was a forgery, why? Then her associate would have stated Mr. Sottile was given a non-day contingency not a five day contingency. In a court of law if evidence is not brought into play then a judge can’t rule on it. Thank you lawman for telling about cardealercheck.com, I’m glad since Mr. Sottile was a true professional and kept all of this out his posts, I now have the ability to let the truth be known. Mr. Sottile if you’re looking for an attorney, I’ll also send you e-mail and let me know.
Legalbrief ,
Thank you and I appreciate how difficult it must have been as an attorney to give a true account of what happened on August 11,2008 at the Mchenry County Courthouse regarding the practices of attorneys in your proffession. My goal regarding my posts were only to insure dealerships like Schaumburg Kia never pull this type of unethical behavior on any other consumers, I also felt Ms. Ashen and her associates actions were unethical and violated the very oath they took as officer of the courts. What I wanted from the beginning was very simple, it was for Schaumburg Kia to stand behind a contractual agreement entered into between my self and there dealership.Please be advised, I will continue to insure I get the word out regarding Schaumburg Kia and there business ethics.
Car dealercheck.com, thank you for the opportunity to get the word out and I appauld your webpage for giving the consumer the opportunity to do just that. As for everyone who has written positives posts on my behalf, Thank you. I would please ask anyone who is posting to please insure we keep are opinions proffesional and fair, because If we begin to lie and make up stories, then we stoop to the level of the very people we’re posting about.
Thank you,
tonythemongoose
Tonythemongoose your a class act! Legal brief i appreciate you being proffessional enough to let attorneys know when the crossed the line. Schaumburg Kia how many sales do you believe this cost you? I’ll bet alott more then the $13,500.00 dollar Ford Mustang Convertible sitting at WillowBrook Ford/Kia. Yes I’ve become a member of the boycott team. Keep telling this story tonythemongoose to insure know one else has to endure this type of arrogence. This will be my final post.
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My Schaumburg Kia reviewI LOVE MY KIA FROM KIA OF SCHAUMBURG
I GOT A GREAT PRICE AND A GREAT VAN
THE STAFF WENT OUT OF THERE WAY YO HELP ME
FIND THE RIGHT VEHICLE FOR MY FAMILY.
I SHOPPED AT A FEW OTHER DEALERS AND FELT THEY
DID NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT I WANTED ONLY WHAT THEY WANTED TO SELL ME.
MY PURCHASE AT KIA OF SCHAUMBURG WAS GREAT AND I HOPE YOURS WILL BE TO……………………….
megan 22 and mikey p
I have to be honest with you guys i was interested in Scahumburg Kia but since mikey p’s post was a lie then I can only assume that megan 22’s post is also a lie. I’m not going to purchase a vehicle at schaumburg kia but i will look at a toyota or a honda. I’m going to be honest with everyone I’m going to tell everyone i know not to believe any positive post’s for schaumburg kia put on cardealercheck.com why because if mikey p lied then you can be guaranteed megan and everyone is is being told to do the same. thank you tonythemongoose i could have made a big mistake.
Wow!
I thought I had heard everything! Megan22 and Mikey P give it up your only making it worse for Schaumburg Kia. The more you guys post positive stories the less people are going to believe you! Quit destroying good dealerships name like the one my dad owns he’s getting hammered by the economy and doing right by his customers. Do you want to recoup your integrity and good name then do the right thing or suffer the bad publicity. Take some advice regarding integrity from financeguy1959.
Hello everyone,
I’m not going to give an opinion of mikey p and megan22 but i will say this i was interested in purchasing a kia from shuamburg kia but after reading all of the post’s i will not purchase a kia from schaumburg kia or any other kia dealer for that matter. look how can you call yourselves a reputable dealer when you forge someones signature and then do nothing to rectify it. Tonythemongoose i read all of your posts and thank you for being a class act and you handled this situation as a proffessional and with ethics and morals. 😀
Dear Everyone,
What a deal, I was thinking about buying a KIA and I was told other than a KIA dealership in Mchenry there was a KIA dealer in Schaumburg IL. Thank you cardealercheck.com I looked up Schaumburg Kia and I was amazed at their lack of integrity and morals. To be fair I read all of the posts I could find on cardealercheck.com. and what struck me was this fact, Mikey P never responded back to tonythemongoose post. As everyone has stated you can’t explain away a forgery. This is despicable, you commit forgery, which is in my opinion a crime, and you’re then low enough to have people write up false positives posts for your dealership. In my opinion you should be put out of business and consider this another lost sale. From what I read its looks like you’ve lost allot more sales then the value of tonythemongoose vehicle. Can you guys do the math? Thank you tonythemongoose for getting the word out, and as for Schaumburg Kia your getting what you deserve. If you would have done the right thing from the beginning or even now, you would be selling allot more cars and you wouldn’t have this bad press. The consumers always win; I’m sure you’re smart enough to realize that now. Keep getting the word out tonythemongoose, your insuring this doesn’t happen to anyone else.
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My Schaumburg Kia reviewKIA OF SCHAUMBURG IS A GREAT PLACE TO BUY A NEW OR USED VEHICLE. I PURCHASE ONE LAST WEEK AND THEY BEAT EVERY OTHER DEALERS PRICE .THEY EVEN WILL WASH MY CARS FOR FREE AS LONG AS I OWN IT. AFTER READING OTHER REVIEWS I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS NOT THE DEALERS FAULT IT WAS THE PERSON WRITING THE REVIEW. I THINK PEOPLE TRY TO CHEAT DEALERS OR TRICK THEM INTO SELLING THEM A CAR WITH LIES. SUCH AS HOW THERE GOOD THERE CREDIT IS. PLEASE IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A GREAT DEAL ON A CAR . THEN VISIT KIA OF SCHAUMBURG
Mikey P,
I appreciate your sticking up for Schaumburg Kia, but who lied and who stated they had great credit. Here is what your missing, Schaumburg kia forged my signature on a Spot delivery agreement, how do I know this? I have the original spot delivery agreement in my possession. The spot delivery agreement entered by Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Debra Ashen in a court of law was known as exhibit B, my signatures were identical, yet Brian’s initials were different, how did this happen? If I have the original spot delivery agreement which stated a five day contingency.
If I lied or stated I had great credit, then why did Schaumburg Kia forge my signature on a spot delivery agreement? What were they hiding. I told a true and legitimate story and I recieved a ton of support, not to mention I’ve met allot of people whom Schaumburg Kia has done some very unethical things too. Don’t these people have a right to be heard?
I’m glad you had a pleasent car purchase, but you have no right to call anyone a lier unless you were there when it happened
mikey,
Do you work for Schaumburg Kia, why? I couldn’t understand a word you wrote. The mongoose is right, you have no right to judge anyone or call them liers. You cannot explain away a forgery or can you. Mikey my guess would be your a salesman at Schaumburg Kia. please don’t waste your time sticking up for a bunch of crooks, liers, and cheats. Tonythemongoose and everyone else who told the truth keep the boycott going and put these guys out of business. Don’t waste peoples time writing reviews when you work for the dealership.
What…..what…..
mikey are you kidding me, you expect us to believe you don’t work for Schaumburg Kia. It’s one thing to state you got a great deal but it’s another to atack people. Yes I’m one hundreds of people involved in this boycott, so yes we look through cardealercheck every day and were going to respond to your type of tactics. If Schaumburg Kia didn’t want the bad press then they should have done the right thing. Real simple hold the people accountable for there actions and insure the mongoose contract was never recinded. Isn’t that why we sign dealer contracts?
I have a five hundred credit rating and it stinks, but if I go into a dealership and they state here is a spot delivery agreement with a five day time frame, I then sign every legal purchase document, then :devil(:mad: they darn well better stand behind their contract when they bypass the allotted time frame. Mikey it’s people like you who make it impossible for websites like car dealer check to insure the consumers are protected. Go back to selling cars at Schaumburg Kia and let the consumers get the word out.
Mikey it’s people like you who
As a finance manager of a Gm dealership I want to ring in on this situation I would like to thank tonythemongoose for standing up and telling the truth for all consumers to read I’ve seen this situation happen many times at dealerships yet I’ve never seen this type of unethical behavior at any dealership I’ve ever worked at. Listen were all human and we make mistakes but when the issue is within the dealership then the dealership should have resolved this issue without any problems or inconveniences to tonythemongoose. if schaumburg kia didn’t want bad press then they should have done the right thing from the beginning Tonythemongoose we’ve made a horrible mistake and we will rectify it continue to drive the vehicle and we’ll get this situation rectified. I’ve been at dealerships when this situation occurred and that dealership took a loss but kept the customer happy. What is more important losing a couple thousand on one car or a couple hundred thousand in sales? This boycott will cost schaumburg kia and everyone else involved allot more then one simple car. mikey P being a finance manager at a deaklership your attack on everyone only proves you work for schaumburg kia or you’re a friend of theirs. Mikey if schaumburg kia wants the bad press to stop then they should do the right thing like they should have done from the beginning. tonythemongoose were at fault how can we make this right. very simple don’t you think
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My Schaumburg Kia reviewTo whom it may concern:
We’ve all heard this before, all dealerships are crooks and don’t think for a second that they won’t try to screw you over,well Schaumburg Kia is that very dealership. Let me start from the beginning on June 04,2008 I called a salesman at Schaumburg Kia named Christopher about a 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible and I stated if it was ok I would like to hold off running a credit check on me that day. Myself and Christopher talked at least three or four times about this matter via cell, when Christopher stated come on in Mr. Sottile we don’t have to run a credit check on you today, but we will need too Mr. Sottile you do understand that ? My response was yes.
So I went to the dealership and looked at the Mustang, we then all came to an agreement. A bank was contacted and I was given a interest rate, a monthly payment, monthly terms and conditions and a final payout pertaining to my loan. I was then brought into Brian the finance manger office were I signed a retail installment agreement, a odometer diclosure statement, an after market warranty, a vehicle purchase order, and a state title and plate purchase document. I also signed a Spot delivery agreement, Why? A spot delivery agreement gives a dealership a legal out pertaining to the contractual agreements signed by them and the consumer. Why did I sign the spot delivery agreement? I wasn’t having my credit run that day. What was the terrms and conditions of my spot deklivery agreement? five days. Please remember this, I was given the original signed spot delivery agreement by myself and Brian in finance at Schaumburg Kia.Who gave me the original spot delivery agreement? Brian the finance manager.
We can all agree I purchased this vehicle legally? Correct. Brian the finance manager at Schaumburg Kia stated, Mr. Sottile if you don’t here from us in five days then just look for your monthly billing statement by the end of June2008.
Well the five days came and went, then ten days came and then fifteen days came and went. On June 19,2008 I was left a voicemail on my cell that wasanything less than understandable. From what I could understand It sated we can’t loan you. I immediatley e-mailed Schaumburg Kia back due to the fact I was out of town and stated, what are you talking about this should have already been done, why? My original spot delivery agreement stated you only had five days to null and void the terms and conditions of our signed contractual agreements.
Well to finalize this, there attorney Debra Ashen sent me a legal pleading and guess what Schaumburg Kia had a spot dlivery agreement in their legal pleading that stated what? I had a no day contingency. Now remember I have the original signed spot delivery agreement. As I looked at my original and Schaumburg Kia’s erxhibit b, I realized my signatures were indentical, yet Brian’s initial were different. No one signs his or her name the same way twice or his or her initials. There maybe similarities but there never the same. Can you minipulate initials or a name by copying it? No. Ladies and Gentleman Schaumburg Kia and Debra Ashen entered evidence in a court of law that was a forgery. Can I prove everything I’m saying? Yes. Anyone who doesn’t believe me, I will leave my e-amil adress and feel free to contact me and I will be more than willing to fax anyone over my original and Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Debra Ashens exhibit B.You be the judge! Enter Schaumburg Kia at your own risk.
[email protected]
Dear All,
I wanted to praise this individual for letting the truth be known regarding the illegal tactics of Schaumburg Kia, the KIA Corporation and Ms. Debra Ashen. This story has been posted on many websites over the last several months, when I first read this story I contacted this individual to insure his story was true and correct, what surprised me most was his genuine honesty. This individual faxed me over a copy of his original spot delivery agreement and a copy of legal document exhibit B. Please note I’m not a handwriting expert but I do know a forgery when I see one and exhibit B is a forgery!!!
In the last two weeks as consumers we’ve started a boycott via e-mail, to let individuals know not to buy a KIA vehicle from Schaumburg Kia, r any other Kia dealership not to mention a Hyundai from Hyundai Motors. To date we’ve reached one hundred and ten thousand consumers worldwide and counting. As consumers we control the tactics of corporations, you commit a criminal act against a consumer, then we put you out of business.
The 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible is sitting at their dealership, so just look on their website, and I wonder whom there going to commit a criminal act against next regarding this vehicle. Let the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible; rot in their lot. Do Not Buy It!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks guys,
Living in Schaumburg Il I was thinking about purchasing a Kia from Schaumburg Kia, but after reading the postings of the mongoose and wrinkler1 I’m glad I checked car dealer review. I wouldn’t purchase a Kia from Schaumburg Kia or any other Kia dealership in the U.S. ever. I looked at the 2007 Ford Mustang convertible on Schaumburg Kia’s website and it’s under fifteen grand, what are these guys thinking? I did notice it said a different dealership name so I wonder if they own multiple dealerships. I would like to join the boycott so please see my e-mail address below, I’m going to look and see how many other dealerships Schaumburg Kia owns,why? So we can include them in our boycott. If they play these kid of games at one dealership, then you can be guaranteed they play them at all of there dealerships. I look forward to receiving the boycott e-mail to forward to all of my friends in Schaumburg IL and beyond.
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Hey,
I wanted to reply to these posts, I had a similar experience at Schaumburg Kia. I went in and looked a Kia Sorrento and everything was settled, then out of nowhere Brian in finance told me that oh, the interest rate and deal we promised you couldn’t happen, I then said why did you make a deal with me? He then replied well what could you do, so I then replied see you later and left. They made a deal with me that they new couldn’t be fulfill, so they lied to me, just to try and force me to pay a higher price for the vehicle. I looked through some websites and it looks like Schaumburg Kia also owns Mazda of Naperville and Evergreen Kia. Let’s boycott them too. If they are willing to lie and cheat at one dealership, then you know they’ll do it at all of them. Dealerships want to know why they’re going out of business, take a look at your business ethics. Schaumburg Kia should be shut down permanently. I’m going to tell all of my friends in Schaumburg IL, the mongoose’s story so they can also boycott these dealerships noted above, which will also include the Kia Corporation and Hyundai Motors.
Dear all,
Schaumburg Kia is a bunch of unethical and immoral people. I had a similiar experience with Christopher and Tom, they contacted a bank gave me a great price and interest rate, and then stated wow!!!! we can’t hit that price after I entered Brian’s office. It’s a way to jack up the price on you, but to committ forgery is a whole other matter. Do I believe this dealership would go as far as to committ fraud? Most cerntainly.
Mr. sottile thank you for getting the word out on these criminals, and keep the information highway burning. These criminals and the Kia corporation should be put out of business.
🙂
Right On! I was going to look at a vehicle and Schaumburg Kia until I read this post. I believe Schaumburg Jeep, Naperville Mazda, Evergreen Kia, not to mention Schaumburg Kia are all affiliated so I would recommend if one dealership are crooks then they all are. I wouldn’t buy a kia or Hyundai if you paid me after reading this post. To be honest I looked up kia and hyundai and there are tons of fraudulent claims on the web. Wow! forgery is a whole new bowl of wax though. Tonythemongoose, thank you and keep your story going, why? so know one else get’s taken advantage of. These dealerships listed above should be put out of business for good!!!!!!!!!:)
Dear all,
As a finance manager when I first read this story I thought, no way this guys has to be lying. Was I wrong? I had a copy of the original spot delivery agreement and exhibit b faxed to my office and exhibit sure looks like someone traced Mr. Sottile’s signature, Ok it’s a forgery. What I can’t understand is this, why didn’t Schaumburg Kia just honor this gentleman’s contract; they bypassed the allotted amount of days on the spot delivery agreement. I’ve seen this happen at least a hundred times, and you allow the individual to continue driving the vehicle until you straighten out the financing, Sometimes you even have to take a loss on the vehicle to insure customer satisfaction.
Here is a simple question, let’s say Mr. Sottile brought back the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible twenty days later and said I don’t want it. Would Mr. Sottile be held to the contractual agreement he signed? Yes. I looked at all of Mr. Sottile paperwork, and he legally purchased the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible. What I can’t understand is this, why didn’t the KIA Corporation stand behind Mr. Sottile? Ladies and Gentleman, come on down and buy a GM and we’ll treat you right. I’m going to show this letter to all Gm customers who want to purchase a Kia.
Wow,
I wanted to thank the mongoose for his honesty and getting the word out about Schaumburg Kia. I was thinking about purchasing a Kia Sedona from Schaumburg Kia but I wouldn’t purchase a Kia or Hyundai for all the money in the world after reading there criminal and unethical behavior, not to mention the Kia Corporation condoning there behavior. I looked on Schaumburg Kia’s website for the 2007 Ford Mustang Convertible and it wasn’t there so my guess is that they just pulled it off of there website in the hopes no one would see it. To Late! There is a fine line between arrogence and stupidity, and Schaumburg kia and the Kia Corporation are the stupid ones in my opinion. According to this website Schaumburg Kia has already lost two or three sales and counting. Wicked1 thank you for proving that the mongoose’s story is straight up and rest assured I will purchase a GM. Schaumburg Kia and the Kia Corporation is it worth losing these many sales over a $14,995.00 dollar car? The big three are begging for money so I’m sure you will too, yet your an import so the U.S. could care less.
There goes another sale!
Thank’s everyone for your insight I was thinking about purchasing a Kia from schaumburg Kia but now forget about it. I looked at some other websites and saw that there is a boycott regarding Schaumburg Kia and their subsidiaries,not to mention the Kia Corporation and HyundaI Motors. Can I join the boycott? I have friends all over the U.S., California, Chicago, Minnesota, excetra….Let’s get the word out. These guys are criminals. :mad::mad::mad::devil( [email protected]
Dear all,
Consider myself another lost sale for Schaumburg Kia, Kia Motors,Hyundai and any other affiliations of these dealerships and manufacturers. Thank you everyone for your views and responses I could ahve made a horrible mistake. Tonythemongoose thank you for your review and keep telling your story. Since these guys are crooks then these guys should be treated as such. I would like to join the boycott if possible, here is my e-mail address. [email protected]
Dear all,
This afternoon I got my first opportunity to look at my review posted on Car Dealer Check.com and everyone’s responses were very kind and supportive. My goal here was never to put anyone out of business or destroy anyone reputation, it was very simply to state the truth regarding Schaumburg Kia actions. I began by posting my story on many…many…consumer websites and I’ve received to date, over seven hundred and fifty thousand e-mail responses. The small amount of e-mails I’ve been able to open and read have all been 100% in my favor. I had a group of people I’ve never met before begin a boycott via e-mail of Schaumburg Kia, The Kia Corporation, Hyundai Motors and any affiliates of Schaumburg Kia. As of today’s date, I was told this e-mail boycott has reached over two hundred and sixty thousand people and growing daily. Unreal! Why do I believe there is such an overwhelming response? Very simply put, my evidence is factual and real.
Thank You,
Tonythemongoose
There goes another sale! I wouldn’t buy a Kia from Schaumburg Kia if they were the last dealeship around. These auto dealers and manufactureres stick it to us and then want us to bail them out waht are they delusional? The kia corporation and Hyundai schaumburg kia and any other dealerships they own I hope you get what you deserve. bankruptcy!!!!!!!!!:D:eek:;)
Tonythemongoose thanks for the info and your a class act!!!!!!
Wow, you actually think people are buying your con? If they are then they are not very smart or informed. A judge disagreed with you. If this actually happened to you why don’t you have an attorney and sue? Any attorney would do it for a commision in a second if what you say happened.
Even more you tried this before with ford, anyone googling your name can find you tried to con ford out of a car by not paying and then complaining that you didnt have an address to send the payments too. Sounds like you are just a con artist. If I or anyone I know ever wants a collection attorney I now know who to go to and would reccomend anyone do the same. Sounds like she did her job reallly well.
I wanted to respond to scam, I started my postings to allow the consumers to understand what took place at your dealership.I’ve stated from the begining anyone who is interested in seeing my original and exhibit B is more than welcome too. I’ve had e-mails ls from blue colar workers, white collar workers, Judges, and lawyers who asked me to fax over my exhibit B, and what did they all state? Exhibit B is a forgery. If I’m a liar, then please answer this question, why is every post on this website in total support of me not Schaumburg Kia. I’ll tell you why, I’ve never called anyone names or tried to defame their character, I just told the truth. I have faxes to Ms. Debra Ashen and The Kia Corporation giving them the ability to be heard regarding this matter. What was their responses? Silence. I even went as far as to say I would give them all of the websites I’ve posted on to insure they could respond immediatley to my posts, and what was their responses? Silence. I will state this to anyone or everyone, anything I’ve stated on this post I will be more than happy to fax over or send via mail. You can defame my character with your accusations but you can’t argue the truth. One last thing, If I’m a con, then whay have individuals I’ve never seen or heard sent out over three hundred thousand boycotted e-mails on my behalf.
Scam give it up, do you know what I tell my clients? If you open your mouth and lies come out, Shut up! You try to destroy a man credibility, why? Because you forged him name on a legal document. Tonythemongoose if you don’t have an attorney to sue these morons, you have one now. I’ll send you an e-mail and let me know. I’ve had clients sue Chrysler and write alott of bad things about them, what does that have to do with forgery? You forge tonythemongooses signature and he’s a loser? What planet are you guys living on. tonythemongoose I have no idea what legal steps you’ve taken or are going to take, but we can start off with perjury and then move into defamation, excetra…. Schaumburg Kia, please keep talking your only hanging yourselves..
I normally don’t waste my time replying to posts multiple times but scam, schaumburg kia, or whoever you are, you guys are dispicable! I can’t believe we live in a country where car dealeships can committ forgery and then call the victim a loser and trash his character. Lawyer1 I work in the legal proffession and I say you hit the nail right on the head. If anyone is dumb enough to purchase a car from schaumburg Kia then you’ll get what you deserve. tonythemongoose you have my deepest respect and admiration, don’t let a bunch of unethical people trash who you are. Schaumburg Kia if you want to see a proffessional at work, just look at tonythemongooses posts. Do you want to see a bunch of morons at work just look at scam and mikey p’s posts. Someone get a hold of the States Attorneys office and put these guys and all of their subsidiaries out of business. Please!
Please read,
Scam I did a little research and what I found was very interesting. Working in the legal profession I wanted to insure this wasn’t another bashing of an attorney or their client. After doing some research, I was amazed at what I found. Ok, well the case number is 08LM629 and the room number was 201, not to mention the court date was August 11, 2008 at the Mchenry County Courthouse. Feel free to verify what I’m saying.
This pleading was nothing less than defamation 101.
Let’s take a look shall we:
1) Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen stated tonythemongoose went into Schaumburg Kia and stated he had a 700 plus credit rating.
2) Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Ashen stated tonythemongoose claimed he was refinancing his home.
3) Schaumburg Kia and Debra Ashen stated tonythemongoose told them that they had to wait fifteen days to run a credit check on him.
4) In laymen terms, they said nothing less then tonythemongoose was a fraud and liar.
I’ve purchased at least twenty cars; yet I’ve never had a dealership just give me a car with nothing more then what I’ve told them. Let’s go to every dealership and say hey I have this and that so give me a car, so I can just test-drive it for a month or so. Do Schaumburg Kia and Ms. Debra Ashen believe we are all mindless idiots?
Scam, tonythemongoose was very professional, but as we say in the courtroom if you open the door then the big bad attorney will knock it down. You brought up court, the judges decision, and Ms. Ashen doing her job. As individuals we now have the ability to knock down that very door and walk right on in. I think we all know who is lying and who is telling the truth, but as lawyer1 said, if all you can do when you open your mouth is lie, then keep your mouth shut. You may want to ask Ms. Ashen, what happens when you knowingly and willing go into court and enter a forged document as evidence and lie, not to mention Ms. Ashen what happens to attorneys who knowingly and willingly lie and then enter said tainted evidence into a court proceeding. I’ve defended some shady characters in my career, but in all my years in the legal profession I’ve never seen anything this low and unprofessional. Shame on you guys!
Attorney1,
I must have recieved thirty-five e-mails over the last hour telling me about your post. I have no idea how you got all of that information, but everything you wrote is identical to the legal pleading that I have in my possession. I don’t know what to say other than thank you Attorney1, lawman1,and lawyer1, and everyone else who have posted on my behalf for being kind enough to give your input and stand up for me. I’ve also received alott of e-mails about Ford Motor Credit that everyone wanted me to touch base on. I have no ill will with Ford Motor Credit and if I were given the opportunity to deal with them again I would.
I was wrong to post on there stock website and I apologize. I was just very frustrated due to the fact that they had admitted fault to me the day before and then out of nowhere they took my vehicle.I’ve owned over thirty two cars in my lifetime and I’ve paid the vehicles that have had loans without any problems. To date I’ve never recieved any type of court summons regarding this matter, so I can only assume Ford Motor Credit realized there mistake and moved on.
With that being said, I will stand 100% behind my postings of Schaumburg Kia and everyone else involved. This will be my last post on this website, if individuals want to continue to post then that is up to you.
Thank you very much,
Tonythe mongoose
Hello
This morning I sent schaumburg kia an e-mail due to the fact i thought there behavior was inapropriate, so. do you want to know what there response was?
http://mail.yimg.com/a/i/us/pim/dclient/img/spacer_1.gif Kia of Schaumburg – Tom Conway
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:25:04 AM
To:[email protected]
SEAMS LIKE YOU HAVE TO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR VEHICLE PURCHASE
First of all seams is spelled seems, second of all how about look we made a horrible mistake and we are looking to rectify the situation with tonythemongoose. there arrogence is unbelievavble not to mentional dispicable. ladies and gentlemen you are seeing first hand there unethical and unbelievable behavior. tonythemongoose you are a class act and i can only hope that the attorney general office, the states attorneys office, or a Mchenry county judge reads these posts. We already know that two attorneys have and ms. ashen you should be disbarred.
Can I join the boycott? you have me e-mail address listed above.
Are you kidding me!
I had a similar situation with a ford dealer and I was told I would receive 3.9% financing on a 2008 Ford Mustang Gt. I also signed a spot delivery agreement and the finance manager gave me a three day spot delivery agreement yet stated he would know within twenty-four hours whether I was loan able or not. Well six days passed and I received a phone call which stated the best we can do is 11% financing and he then stated that would be a stretch due to the fact my credit was less than great. I stated please understand I signed an agreement and you passed up the allotted time. The finance managers said don’t worry keep driving the vehicle and we’ll let you know. It’s our fault.
Well ten days later they contacted me and stated we were able to loan you but at a much higher rate. He further stated we’d honor the 3.9% financing as stated in our signed agreements. What did they do, they dropped the price of the car to insure upon completion of my sixty-month loan the final payout would equal the 3.9% financing. They lost about six thousand dollars on the car but they gained a lifetime customer all of my family members and friends. How long do you think it will take them to recoup their money, not very long? Schaumburg Kia you guys are nasty and I hope your days are numbered as a dealership. You committed forgery, lied, threatened, and made up stories yet everyone can see you guys for who you really are.